during soviet times. and russian influence is everywhere still. chess is taught in public schools, a basic life skill. it's probably the fact that armenia was such a powerhouse of smart, highly educated brainiacs with strong backgrounds in engineering, math, rocketry, and technology. a veritable silicon valley of the caucuses, that largely spared them of the worst of soviet rule. and also, perhaps, the reason that it continues to be a leader in it. i meet a few members from the tech community at a local brewery in yerevan. arthur, an industry writer. harut, a software engineer. and ruben, a cyber-security consultant. >> anthony: so, what are you making? what is coming of this? it is a big- it's a big house. >> arthur: so, websites,