and european immigrants. so this is how you end up with a state of israel that on the one hand is oppressing palestinians and on the other hand is trying to push forward religious narratives and so that is a historically fact. >> i don't see it as persecuting if it was up to the palestinians, every single jew in israel would be slaughtered, if it was up to israel, it would be peaceful co-existence. let's not get it twisted. the goal of judaism is not to wipe out islam. the goal of islam is to wipe out israel. >> you can't say that israel is persecuting palestinians simply because they're protecting themselves. >> reverend scott, you said that all palestinians want to wipe out all israelis. do you -- do you stand by that? >> when i say all, i mean all in a limited sense, in a figure of speech, known as a synecdoche