to divert from the first book. how is this president as a national security leader? >> gloria, it does provide ammunition to those who, you know, obviously in the gop and el elsewhere who are going to want to come after comey hard, to phil's point. it's not, you know, sort of straight down the middle. even the idea of writing a book like this, so soon after serving in an administration, you know, revealing behind the scenes details and stuff, you know, rubbing people the wrong way. >> i agree with phil. i think you walk a fine line here, but i think that comey may appear more partisan than he should want to appear. because these are very serious issues he's dealing with, about separation of power, about the toxicity that he believes emanates from this white house, throughout the government, stemming directly from the president. and those are -- those are serious charges and serious issues. and then, when you talk about, well, i was kind of looking to see what size his hand was, you know -- it doesn't -- it's just