it's good to be here. >> you know, there is -- i know you don't want to render judgment on ethical concerns being raised against mr. pruitt. but there is a concern among his supporters that it's his potency as epa director, the moves that he is taking that fuels a lot of heat against him causing his critics to raise the temperature. is that fair? is some of this overblown because a lot don't like what he is doing at the epa? >> listen, i would probably be the first to say that i don't believe that scott pruitt is acting in the best interest of the environmental protection agency public health. our ability to live healthy lives. our ability to address climate change. those are the things he should be talking about and thinking. now, clearly the ethics lapses are real. i don't think anyone is making those issues up. and i think they are compelling. i think they speak to his