at brigham young university as well. professionally, it's clear -- all these professional successes for rob porter happened while he was reportedly abusing both his wives, so this was a problem that she had not reported to their bishops at the time, both women, and unfortunately, the systemic problems of the mormon church are not equipped to deal with domestic abuse. the mormon charge has a lei priesthood. they are not a psychotherapist or dealt -- they don't in many cases report this to, you know, public officials. this is a huge problem that in the personal life of someone like rob porter, it needs to be managed more carefully, and the mormon church has been failing. >> not just the mormon church, but society, this is an issue, you know, across the spectrum in which women are saying our voices are not heard. i've done a number of stories that have to do with abuse including on college campuses up to nursing homesing and the women who are victims are