that is not good. but he was only at 45 a year ago today. so the bottom hasn't fallen out. so everyone could find a number that justifies their stance at this moment. >> and then brian, this just into cnn, democratic source safing that senator dick durbin attended a meeting on talks and mcconnell is scared to death, end quote, of trump and limited by paul ryan agenda. what is your response on that? this leadership by fear or vice versa. >> well i could guarantee that mitch mcconnell is not scared to death. i think he's fairly serene about the situation. i think the polls that were just cited is good reason for him to be serene. namely that a third of the country thinks it is worth doing this over this issue. and about three-fourths think it is foolish. so schumer shutting the government down seems a pleat kplooetly pointless exercise and one that republicans generally are sort of perplexed by. >> and it wasn't just weeks ago