was talking about collusion and he just kept on repeating that it didn't happen. i think we have the sound. let's play that right now. >> there has been no collusion, no collusion. they all say there's no collusion and there is no collusion. i can only say this there is no collusion. it has been determined there is no collusion. when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion. >> he's pinning a lot on the idea of no collusion here. he doesn't talk about obstruction but clearly trying to send that message. >> absolutely. the irony of this entire situation is that what the president should be doing, what he's literally in his own interest is to not talk about this at all. there's legal reasons for that, but from a message standpoint he just passed a massive tax bill. i think it was terrible policy, but it's very popular. i assume, you know, with republicans it's something -- it's a way for him to try to take credit for the economy. i don't agree with that, but he -- the last thing he should