view down someone's strongly religious belief. at the same time we have to respect the rights of all americans. so it's really difficult. what's to de facto keep this from happening when a couple walks into the bakery and says, oh, sorry, booked that weekend? what's to preclude somebody who has a grass cutting service get a bid from -- call somebody to cut your lawn and the guy shows up and it's a guy up couple and says, i'm sorry, i can't take any more work. how do you prove that? it really is a very, very difficult situation here in america. i think people's deeply held religious believes need to be recognized as well as the rights of all individuals. it's a big tension here. the court is in a tough spot to decide it. justice kennedy very thoughtful, obviously. it's going to be jump ball. that's why ana's earlier point about the president appointing conservative justices to the court, to the supreme court, president trump, hugely important. hugely important. >> where do you come down on this, ana? >> i almost can't believe it but i'm kind of torn on this which