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help for these people. >> is that on us? do you think that's on -- is there a lesson that -- i mean, you can't make these people come back. you can't fix what happened here. >> you can't fix what's broke like that. >> but in your experience and now what you're living through, do you think we need to look at it and figure out, there's got to be something so you don't wind up with the same set of ingredients that leads to evil? >> it needs to be looked at more. and we need more places to put these people, to try to help them. >> there's a sensitivity issue that comes up that i respect and i understand, but not completely, which is, don't talk about it now. give them their time, give them their time. but as you know, because you're one of them now, sheriff, nobody want answers more than you guys do. you don't want anybody else to ever have to look at what you had to look at. >> no, we don't. >> but we'll hear from that lawmakers who don't want to take it on, because it's too hard, sheriff. because they can't give a nice, quick fix. but you think that, give the

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