that i think that mueller should stay in place. and we should -- >> and you would take action to try -- you would take action against the white house if the president made some sort of move to get rid of robert mueller? >> listen, as facts change, so, too, can my opinion. but at this point, what we see this morning, i think that we should continue on. but, alisyn, what i think is important is, let's look at manafort. let's look at president trump. but, i mean -- and i get frustrated sometimes when i hear some of your reporting this morning. we also have to look at what impact did russia have with hillary clinton? and her campaign and the dossier. and uranium one. these are all big and bold questions. >> i hear you, i understand. it just feels like a diversion and a deflection this morning as we watch paul manafort surrender. >> no, no, i've been talking about this for weeks. the only collusion point we do have is the sense of dnc and hillary paying money to a law firm that went to fusion that