reagan, a traditional sort of conservativism and it turning towards this ethno nationalism with a touch of white identity politics and it's very concerning to them. the question is, are we going to see the so-called establishment really fight back against this and try and claim the republican party and hold on to it? or are they going to let it slip away? they have a tendency to shy away from conflict and think -- -- think this themselves, look -- and there's some truth to this -- that for all of president trump's rhetoric, he has not acted yet that radically. but there is a faction of the party and bannon is now the latest figure leading this faction, that wants to bring to fruition much of trump's rhetoric, even if trump never really does. i think that if you -- >> let me just ask, this bipartisan criticism from the former two presidents and also from mccain, does that only serve to help him with his base? >> to a degree it does.