truck for a living and this wonderful technology might be great for the economy in some abstract sense but is going to put 3 million people out of work. >> i think it's a real issue. so here's multiple things. one is on the practical side, i would say let's not fall complete victim to this lump of labor fallacy. >> being -- what you're saying is there's actually lots of new work and new jobs and new industries that will spring up. >> that's right. so that's, you know, having said it abstractly, then let's go to work on in fact disproving the lump of labor fallacy, which is to say people are people. can we have an economy that where there is a lot of things being created by automation create support for people on people jobs. >> like what? give me an example. >> health care, eldercare. in fact, in my own case if i look at i would say what are all the services that could be available for some children with