the expenses of my travel. the tax payers won't pay a dime for my seat on those plane. a dime for my seats. i will break out my lengish to washington, washington to english dictionary, that seems to suggest he's going to reimburse for the business class equivalent of a flight from say washington to nashville, but not pay for the, say $10,000 or whatever. will that make this go away? >> it's interesting, they have been horrible in responding to this story, i mean, this broke in politico, i think on the 19th of september, the initial response was oh, the secretary has to be among americans. so he's got to get there in this way and no regulations -- >> among americans. >> yeah. >> charter pilots. >> exactly. exactly. he can't take commercial flights because he doesn't want to miss these appointments that he has and that no regulations were broken. here they are now, using pretty, i think, washington ease and