that was popular among millions of people. >> he was among the first reality show. >> that's right. >> when we first got cable was it playboy at night he had a television show at the playboy mansion. went from people upset about a magazine then all of a sudden he had a tv show and a smoking jacket and pipe and he was surrounded by all these beautiful women. he set standards when the playboy debuted in 1962 frequent contributor alex haley from "roots" and he interviewed jazz legend myles davis. people joked about, i read playboy for the articles but there was some really good, smart articles in playboy magazine. >> unbelievable smart articles. the classic interviews of the whose who in this cold war david. you mentioned myles davis interview, he would regularly give jazz artists major feature time