cooperating with the north korean regime economically access to the global financial system, that we -- >> so you agree with president trump on this? >> i think that we just have to move to that position and the tougher we are, is the sooner we're either going to get a response from the north korean regime or we're going to realize that there is nothing that can deter them. >> also, senator, don't you think if you take that kind of ultimate position with china, it doesn't risk real ramifications against the u.s. economy? >> right now china is having it both ways. china has penalized the south korean economy, $10 billion a year in denied tourism, because they're cooperating with the united states in deploying a defensive system in south korea. so china, just has to be called out. same thing is true with the russians. right now they're both playing a