of the world, we have seen this show before. i saw it time and time again on the campaign trail. these people still voted for party first. maybe there will be a longer pause in this moment. it just feels very familiar, jake. >> david chalian, let me bring you in. in february, 2016, candidate trump refused to condemn david duke and white supremacists and the ku klux klan. i asked him three times on this show. so there are people who are not particularly surprised by what happened saturday and, in fact, i don't know many people when what happened saturday happened and we found out president trump is going to make a statement thought, oh, this is going to go well. >> i think that's probably a good point. i do think you are right. it is not surprising to watch