and the point is that whether or not he has a point there, a lot of his voters and voters in general may believe we're being a little tough on him. he finally came out, said what needed to be said, but it goes to how trump choosing to operate. one more thing that goats what tawana wrote about. in talking to republicans yesterday, i was talking to john fredericks, hosts a radio show in southern virginia. he is a top trump ally in virginia, a big supporter of his. asking, how do republicans need to handle this, some republicans, especially in the governor and senator, senate race in virginia, that have had different opinions on what happened in charlottesville? he said, look, i don't care if it costs us voters. republicans need to be unequivocal saying these people are not welcome, we don't want their support specifically. he wasn't telling me that's what he wants the president to do, clearly the message was, that's what the president and every republican leader needs to do, specifically tell these kooks to get lost. >> and i think what's -- dave touches on this. difficult is, if you're a republican elected official,