>> all american presidents have understood that north korea provokes. it was always important that the president doesn't respond with more provocation. it's either a diplomatic track or some possible military track. but not using the same rhetoric. that heats everything up. that's what the current president is doing. and that's why there's such fear all over the world about where this ends. it's hard to control the military option. it's not as if it's going to work exactly according to some game plan. that's why this rhetoric is dangerous. >> doesn't he have a point that here we are with the north koreans testing missiles and threatening, you know, threatening guam and saying, still saying they want to wipe out the united states, they could wipe out the united states, and no one was able to stop this? >> they can't wipe out the united states, let's remember that. that's important. and no one disagrees that north korea is not a problem. the question is what do you do