pro du pro-russia, ukrainian party and the failure to report those proceeds and receipts. >> and trump's outrage about what happened with melania's speech. don't forget about that at the convention when they wound up throwing melania under the bus when that speech writer lifted some of the language from michelle obama. that was a problem, also. what does the report reveal, carol, in terms of the intentionality by the special counsel here? is this because manafort wasn't cooperating? is this because they believed he might not cooperate? was this just a show of force? >> so it could have very well been just a show of force, like we're not kidding around, mr. man fort. we are looking at you for potential crimes. you have to convince a judge that indeed there is probable cause to believe a crime is committed. in this one, there's a decent amount of evidence of a potential crime, failure to report, false statements, documents and tax liability,