women in particular, you can't choose which health care provider you want to go to. >> i want to borrow, a, a phrase from the first female secretary of state that talked about cojones and they say you two have more cojones than the guys around here. do you buy that? >> you know, every senator has to make his or her own decision. i wouldn't judge my colleagues. >> i absolutely agree. >> you have some stiff spines. >> that i'd go with. >> did senator mccain come to you before he cast the last vote against the health care bill? >> well, i still remember when both lisa and i were talking with john mccain on the senate floor and he pointed to both of us and he said, you two are right on this issue. >> and to have a conversation that we had after the vote, we