affirmatively that he was -- >> imagine if he didn't know? >> if he did not' know? >> if the president wasn't told about the emails which is almost inconceivab inconceivable. >> why would the president know about his son's emails? i don't know that -- >> how could he are he lease a statement -- >> they're sitting on the plane doing the statement without knowing? >> right. >> this is what has to come out in the investigation obviously, we're speculating but i think the president based on his sil teams to be on a need o know basis. he dint' kn doesn't know the ni gritty. >> if i'm your lawyer, hold up a second, alisyn, the emails which kushner's lawyers found, that was starting his universe of discussion. >> i can't tell if on air force one there was a legal mind weighing in on this. >> according to jay sekulow don jr.'s lawyers are up aover it. >> he's the liable narrator at this point about that.