have to shore it up and give it support. i agree with what ann was saying, he didn't speak in liberal democratic norms and, essential character. instead he spoke as if it was a cultural, sectarian conflict where there was europe and christian europe against unnamed other. not just what he says when he goes to these places, but what he doesn't say. free press, independent judiciary and the stuff we learned to tune out because we were so used to it from every president. he doesn't say that. the people in the countries hear what he's not saying and take that as a cue. >> do you think theresa may is looking to donald trump for some kind of support as britain navigates its kind of post-eu existence? >> i think theresa may fears very much being isolated and looked initially to trump as a kind of -- she was one of the first, i think the first