mr. mr. simpson and mr. furmong have made things right with each o other, that he's accepted mr. simpson's apology whole harltedly. he seems to be a fundamentally really, really good guy who's fallen on some hard times recently and he told me that he would be calling -- coming in and testifying favorably for mr. simpson. i made sure i told him probably 15 or 20 times to say whatever he wanted to say because obviously mr. simpson's attorney talking to a victim, it could be interpreted the wrong way. so again, mr. furmong, say whatever you want to say. nobody's telling you how to testify here. and one of the things we did -- and i did inform parole and probation about both of those conversations on july 3 and july 14. and one of the things that we did spend a lot of time -- i mean, that was a small portion of our conversations was the remorse on mr. simpson's part that mr. furmong accepted.