how to use it, that, you know, to try to walk these guys through. you know? not throwing punches at one another. also, at one point a couple of guys came to me and they said, o.j., i understand you're a baptist. we're baptist and have no baptist service here. can you help us get a baptist service here? i worked with them. we now have an ongoing baptist service that i as well attended, i attend it religious and pun is intenned and i realized in my nine years here i was a good guy. i'm sure when bruce -- i was always a good guy but could have been a better christian and my commitment to change is to be a better christian. >> all right. thank you. we do know that you've programmed over your term of ip carseration, you completed victim empathy, alternative to violence, basic and advanced and computer application. i'd like you to tell us a little bit more about victim empathy and alternative to violence and