>> one of the problems for the white house has been the evolving explanations for this meeting a year ago june. there have been several different explanations. almost every day there are some new arguments. >> there is no revolving explanation. if you look at black and white, the e-mail says i'm interested in information derogatory that comes from a hostile foreign power. by the way, if the president says this is okay, let's make sure we understand what that means. that means we encourage the hostile foreign powers to collect information on american politicians. i don't know what to say. that's like clear the swamp, pump in the pond scum. what are we going to get out of it? >> everybody, stand by. we're getting more information about senator john mccain. monu is up on capitol hill. what are you learning? >> i just spoke with senator graham who is john mccain's closest friend in the senate. gra graham actually spoke to mccain