violation of the law and not done something about it. i know that much about paul manafort. he would not have played with uranium, if you don't mind my saying, or anything nuclear. there could have been mistakes by jared and don because they were nonelected officials and nonpolitical but paul manafort would have known better and done something about it. do you really think that they would have had five people in a meeting if this was about colluding with russia? it defies logic. would donald trump really go out publicly and say i've got to do -- this is all -- this whole i gotcha now approach that the democrats have had since the investigation first started. >> last word. >> he went into a press conference during the summer, asking russia to find the other 30,000 e-mails. there are a lot of things that your president has done to defy logic. let's at least acknowledge that. >> your president, too, angela. >> he's your president. >> the president of the united states. angela rye, jack kingston, thank