can you change that? i remember, dr. king saying to me on one occasion. john that doesn't sound look you. and i couldn't say no to him. or dr. martin luther king jr. we made the changes. >> interesting, you were this young guy, the 23-year-old in the group of elders. and you were really representing students who had a -- a different, orientation. less patience. than some of the others. >> we were then, venting some of the frustration and the sense of discontent on the part so many people. to see so many people arrested and jailed and beaten. and -- seeing like washington were looking the other way. but on the day of the march, on the day of the march. the march was all over. president kennedy invited us down to the white house. and he stood in the door of the oval office. beaming like a proud father. and he kept saying -- yo did a good job, you did a good job. and when he got to dr. martin