loses the more moderate republicans and when he tries to move it to the left he loses conservatives. it's a very delicate balancing act. i'm of the opinion, alison, that as long as you've got those headlines out there that say 20 million people are going to lose their health insurance coverage, it's not going to fly. republicans have to convince american people we can reduce costs, we can provide more choice in competition and health care, reduce your premiums but in a way that's not going to force 20 million people to lose their coverage. >> right. andy, that's where you come in. if they want to reduce costs, understand, laudible goal. but then you reduce services and coverage. so it's very hard to have it both ways. as you know, the essential health benefits are something that a lot of americans have come to rely upon. the addiction treatment, help for the opioid crisis. what do you think is going to happen next? >> well, i think what's happening, and i think stephen

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