doesn't trust them. heions them as what he often refers to as the dip state, okay and then blames them for frequent unflattering news stories coming from his white house. oh, boy. it sounds like certain news program i watch. explain that, please. >> well, president trump really appreciates time with the principals and he actually is very proud of some of the members of his cabinet. he introduces them to people as his killers. he says you know, rex tillerson ran the biggest company in the world and now he runs my state department. he goes my wilbur. when you say his name on wall street, everyone knows him. he's proud he has high net worth individuals and generals with four stars working for him. he likes to have them around them. some cabinet secretaries have higher status with the president than others. but at the end of the day, they're all pining to be close to him because in a way, the way he treats his staff which is like a shuffling of who's up, who's down, he sort of does the say thing with his cabinet