taken to the congress, the special counsel cannot take the president to work on a charge of obstruction of justice. that's not where we presidents are held accountable. they're held accountsable through impeach ment proceedings. then it becomes a political question as well as a legal question for the house representatives. but there is no doubt. boeb both in the clinton cause and nixon case, one the charges that came out in the clinton case and the house was getting ready to pass in nixon is obstruction of justice charge. so there is no question the president can be held accountable for obstruction of justice. gingrich and others are saying now, no, no, a president can't obstruct justice by definition. that's simply not been the case. the presidents have been held accountable on obstruction of justice charges. >> so there is precedent for. that adam shift went on to say that he has seen evidence of