dupes and put them in a position where they could be blackmailed if they didn't go along with what the russians would want. that's an interesting theory, but one obviously he took very seriously, this is a fellow that spent 25 years in the cia, rode through the ranks of republican administrations as well as democratic administrations. >> it's interesting, one of the things that he said was somebody can be a target of compromise or be compromised and not even realize it. >> he had that startling line and say you can go down the path and not even know it. this is the first time i can remember a senior administration or former administration, if you think of sally yates or james comey or clapper or mike rogers, all the parade of senior obama and trump officials who have testified recently, all of which have had bad news for the trump administration, he's the one that actually raised the word treason. he talk it about the president