>> it certainly is. i don't pretend to have the answer. there's certainly some possibilities. the fact he was an outsider, the way trump was. the fact he was so reckless and angry in his denuns iation of hillary clinton famously leading the chant of "lock her up" at the republican national convention. he also had russian connections, turkey obviously we know he was getting a great deal of money from turkey. he had that meeting, he went to russia, he was paid by russia today the news outlet where he sat next to president putin. i don't know. >> what's interesting is that there's so much exposure to the white house and you have this new reporting by matthew and then he notified the transition team, right.