about what should be -- susan collins is part of an effort to actually put >> it's not the bill they like. >> no. the reason these people aren't in there is because all three of those people are more moderate than the average bear that's in there currently. but these are people they are going to need. they only have 52 senators. they lose three, they are at 49 and don't pass anything. i guess do you try to get them on the front end or the back? do you try to include them in the beginning or add them on once the bill is mostly formulated? i tend to think you are way better off policy-wise to do it on the front end. >> even one issue like funding for planned parenthood, if it's included in the senate version, it's going to have problems with a lot of conservatives among the republicans in the house. >> women's health when you talk about essential health benefits, talk about maternity care is one of the essential health benefits, i would argue it matters to both men and women,