federal judges to nominate. what else did this process teach him? anything? >> i think from a political side, it was pretty obvious. you can disagree with judge gorsuch's judicial philosophy, but i think by every standard, he was a very highly qualified justice. the american bar association rated him their highest people who have worked for them in the past. his judicial record in terms of the number of cases where he was in the mainstream and democratic appointees sided with him. i think it showed the president trying to work with senate democra democrats was somewhat of a feudal task. they made up their mind rega regardless of who the person was they were going to vote it down. so that was the biggest lesson. it also shows when you have the right individual, you have