church/state and abortion rights, gay rights. who knows what it will be in 30 years. the only thing we'll know for sure is that the supreme court will have the last word and neil gorsuch will be one of the nine. >> indeed. the supreme court, joan, will also have the last word this, you know, these nine justices on the president's attempts at imposing that travel ban. >> that's right. there's so many issues. you know, we're talking about lots of different chapters of social dilemmas coming before the supreme court and we're likely going to see chapters of how neil gorsuch himself rules as a justice. he'll be tested right away because we'll have -- he'll sit starting next monday. this thursday he'll actually be in conference with his fellow justices. so, we'll see in the next couple of months indications of how he will rule. but there are so many months ahead and justice kennedy, the