her way out, and i believe katy walsh, the deputy chief of staff, also went out. i think that explains one of the reasons why you have jared kushner assuming a larger portfolio and why the lines of command seem to be so confused. trump's inner staff is becoming smaller and smaller. he's not expanding it, he's actually shrinking it. which is going to mean, by the way, that governing will get harder for him over time, not easier. >> jared kushner, ivanka, kellyanne conway. nobody really understands exactly what their jobs are. the lack of definition, is that a problem with getting things done or getting a coherent message out of this administration? >> possibly so. it would be better if the american public knew what their roles were. it would be more clear if they knew what their roles were. knowing a delineated job title as to what her undertakings were. >> i have to go. quickly. >> i think it's a good thing for