defense have gone overseas and said things which contradict candidate trump, secretary of defense in rock saying last time saying we're not going to take iraq's oil. how concerning is it that the secretary of state may not be in on some of the meetings, may not have the ear of the president? >> again, secretary tillerson is meeting quite regularly with the president. i think it's clear that the center of foreign policy decision making is the white house. it's the president. it's jared kushner. steve bannon, the strategist is influenced. there's mcmaster. of all the cabinet officials, the one with the most weight is the secretary of defense, jim matts. in the middle east, that reflects his experience and the fact that most of the people on the ground are wearing military uniforms rather than business suits. >> in terms of this administration's foreign policy, whether it's china or egypt today meeting with the president, the administration