the affordable care act. >> the whole point of obamacare was to increase access through the health care exchanges of medica medicaid. you can't move the ball. >> 21 million people. >> if you looked at the private insurance markets, the employer market, they were doing pretty well before obamacare. >> they were not. >> not cost-wise. cost were going through the roof. >> yeah. >> i mean, the cost curve down significant hi. >> you put boat loads of federal dollars in there. it wasn't lowering cost. >> what are you suggesting, though? take away the money and people will be without health care and go back to a system where people used emergency -- >> this bill does not -- >> this freedom caucus. i'm not free if i don't have access to health care. i am -- i am enslaved to that. >> i also want to bring in doug, the former rnc communications director. doug, you said the only thing worse than pulling a bill is having it go down in the vote.