he said he'll put pressure on republicans that don't vote for it, why not force the democrats to filibuster it and put the pressure on heidi heitkamp? put the pressure on joe manchin? put the pressure on the democrats not the republicans. we're doing this thing backwards. >> but it all threads together doesn't it, karen? the reason they're not doing what john astutely points out is because they want a big win. but there's a problem, their credibility and the credibility to sell this and stay focused have been marginalized usually by the president himself. how big an obstacle? >> that is a huge obstacle and you heard republicans echo that sentiment time and time again. here's part of the problem. as we're seeing president trump's numbers start to -- continue to decline, we're also seeing people being concerned about the fact that when we're spending time talking about or his administration is trying to defend a tweet from two weeks