surveillance. the "new york times," january 20 hiened wiretap data used in inquiry of trump aides. how does the "new york times" know that. what are their sources. clearly sources some people in the government who knew this. there's headline after headline after headline with this. i'm all for an investigation. let's get into it. let's see where the information is coming from. one other thing. >> back to obama. >> the literal thing. shouldn't -- should the president of the united states be taken literally. should his word be taken literally. >> tii think the american peopl corey lewandowski said this earlier. he communicates in a way the modern media is not accustomed to. one thing i want to say about the direct accusation against president obama. you mentioned earlier john iran controversy before we went on the air. i was there. president reagan was repeatedly accused of doing this deliberately. point of fact it wasn't the president at all. it was staff members.