made it very clear that in no way was attempting to compare the slave narrative to the immigrant narrative, the two are extremely disper ate. and the fortitude our ancestors displayed when being forced into this country is not something anyone would attempt to challenge. >> i know what you're saying. >> hold on, don. hold on. >> nope, nope, nope, nope. it doesn't work that way. you said he wasn't attempting to, but that's exactly what he did, by comparing people from ellis island. slaves couldn't even come through ellis island or see the statue of liberty, because it wasn't during that time, that's the point. there were two different experiences. he himself he was comparing it, maybe in his explanation he said that. >> i'm not disagreeing with the facts as it pertains to slavery and immigrants coming from european countries into america. that's not what i'm attempting to do, i'm saying dr. carson