around the country starting this hour. people saying it's not my presidents' day. this immigration debate has a lot to do with that. >> it does. you have seen a lot of groups, whether it's latinos, progressives across the aisle, talking about this, and it's very much galvanizing on that side. the dreamers piece of it will get him in trouble with those conservatives. particularly sort of the talk radio set of conservatives. this is something he has recently telegraphed. he said recently that the dreamer part is very hard for him. he has a heart. he feels for some of these kids who have come over through no fault of their own. you wonder if this is some kind of balancing sort of the law and order part of the party and the compassionate conservative part as well with the dreamers. >> remember, trump sent mixed messages throughout the campaign. first, he was signaling there would be a deportation for us, and then he walked back, whether to deport the 11 million people here illegally, this enthey said they would just deal with the people who were criminals and