>> it's okay post presidency. >> they made him out to be this elitist kite sufficient for back in the day, and he made -- they said he looked goofy, but obama looks pretty cool, the former president. >> it's okay to kite surf, but doing it with richard branson is even more okay. >> who knew there was such a bromance. >> documents of photos. now we know. >> the photos look like the type of photos that you post after you break up with somebody to show that you're like, you're living a better life without them now. look at that. >> i think that's what it is. kevin, i have to tell you i am a terrible surfer. i am a very good paddle boarder. i'm kind of jealous of the president. i can't believe he's older than me and doing better. >> yeah. and he looks like he's in pretty good shape. i don't know, don, if you could hold up with those photos. i don't know. >> he's going to say forget the golf. i'm going to be about kite surfing. >> i think i'll take that up on