this wall and have mexico pay for it. it deals with a problem that doesn't exist. let me cite a fact that people tend to forget. the number of mexicans who are leaving the united states to return to mexico is greater than the number of mexicans who are leaving mexico for the united states. year not having mexicans pour across the border. it's the other way around, in part because our enforcement is so good, in part because the mexican economy is getting better, which is in part because of nafta which he wants to cancel. >> i would say that if the president were representing his view here, he would sigh that the economy is cyclical and there will come a day when the mexican economy is not so robust and those folks will be coming here as they have in the past or perhaps he would pick out one of those high profile crime cases like the kate of kate steinle and say one is too many. >> yes, he would. but here's one more fact for you. if you compare the crime rate among poorly educated mexican, salvadoran and guatemalans to the crime rate of native born americans at the same level of