>> interesting about this, jess. 26 years ago, and she still is more open and honest about her dependence issues when it comes to drugs than a lot of people in my business, in your business, all over the world. >> right. she lived her life as an open book, which was really fascinating given her background. as you have said earlier, she grew up as a celebrity. she came from the world of hollywood. but there was something about her intelligence. and there was also something about her mental issues that made her always feel like she sort of didn't belong. she was a woman who was somewhat uncomfortable in her own skin. and those two facets of her life kind of gave her this incredible outsider's perspective. so she was able to relate to us her experiences growing up the child of movie stars in