it was certainly an admiring thing to say. >> different than donald trump being a fraud. >> it was a long way from that. indeed, i do think that it would be a shrewd appointment by trump, and that the moment there's a crisis, everybody will forget about the bad blood. i think romney doesn't know a lot about foreign affairs. he's not immensely experienced in it, but he does inspire confidence on the part of just about everybody. i think that at the assistant secretary of state level, he would be able to attract top flight republican talent in a way that giuliani would not. >> do you think it bothers donald trump that mitt romney appears more presidential than he does? if you were looking at, the two standing together, you would think mitt romney was the president. >> you would think, and president elect trump is a wee bit insecure, as what i've seen,