they learn. they see what the circumstancing are and he has even been talking to president obama. beyond the sit down they had 30 hours or so after president-elect trump won the election. they have been talking regularly on a number of issues. they talked just yesterday. if okay. so you have researched. is it possible president obama is is doing this to get reassurances that the work he has done won't be scrapped especially after president obama better explains all that he has done to him? >> yeah. if what conway is saying is true, and we don't know that. we haven't heard it confirmed. i think he is doing two things. he is doing as much as possible not to simply undo his legacy

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