>> no kidding. >> thank you, tony. this is excellent. >> i'm wondering, you guys have been here for so long, your family. could you live anywhere else? >> not me. no, not me. >> this is home. i always get called back here. i visited paris and lived in l.a. for a while. you know, paris is pretty great. >> it's pretty great. but it's not here. >> dan, i'm curious to know why you chose here. why you came here initially. >> it's open space. because i had grown up in a circumstance where you couldn't see 50 feet. i mean, the forest was so dense. i used to climb up into the top of a tree on the highest hill just to be able to see over the forest. so there was something about the idea of being able to see the landscape that really compelled me. >> the big empty makes a real deep, deep sense to a certain type of person.