black president in part. and that's the part where the pain comes. >> alice, that's a moment that went viral. he said this is a white lash, and he says i respect who you supported and who won, but you have to realize what was said. you are someone who -- you were late to come over to the trump camp, right? you worked for ted cruz. he was late to come over. how did you reconcile the two? you wrote extensively about this that you were disgusted with some of the things donald trump said but you came on board. >> i still am disgusted with some of the things he said. there is no defense for a lot of the things he said. and i personally had to talk to rafael cruz about some of the things that donald trump said accusing him of killing jfk. i cannot begin to imagine exactly what van feels in that. when i saw that tape and when i saw him say that my heart broke because he is such a kind gentle