town, they know it will be messy. they want him to break the china. they think humpty-dumpty needs to be shoved off the wall. and humpty-dumpty is washington. it's us to a degree. they don't think we speak to them. so think of everything else in our solt and how much it's been disrupted in the last 10 or 20 years. this town has tried to keep the political system in the staid two-party establishment system. they took the rock and hold it on the volcano -- both parties -- and hold it on as long as they could. and then the volcano blew up and when it does it's messy. >> to keep your analogy going about the china shop, the problem hillary clinton clearly had is she was sort of delicately walking around the china shop with a duster just kind of -- you know, instead of just blowing through. and -- >> i'm sorry. >> that's okay. the point abhillary clinton and the point you were trying to make i think, anderson, is it's not always about data. it's not always about modeling. it's not always about political

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